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Asparagus
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(10-13-2009, 08:37 PM)

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#101

http://worldofgoo.com/manualEmailBot.php

It said my order couldn't be found for a while as well, just takes a bit of time.
ScrabbleBanshee
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(10-13-2009, 08:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by KanZolo:
http://worldofgoo.com/manualEmailBot.php


My problem is that it finds it, gives me a link. The link goes to a download of a .PHP file and I can't seem how to figure it out


Lol, well my problem is that the page will not load from my home connector or even via VPN through my work network out of the USA.

I want to buy a few copies to send out to friends, but I'm kind of leery of continuing to go through the process right now.
KanZolo
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(10-13-2009, 08:44 PM)

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It took a couple hours for it to work for me
Blindfutur3
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(10-13-2009, 08:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by Asparagus:
http://worldofgoo.com/manualEmailBot.php

It said my order couldn't be found for a while as well, just takes a bit of time.

I'll keep trying then. Thanks
ProfessorLobo
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(10-13-2009, 08:53 PM)

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Originally Posted by Gexecuter:
i hope that 2dboy won't actually LOSE money on this sale thanks to the many people who will undoubtebly pay like a cent in order to get the game, i bet paypal has a fee for every transaction that takes place even if it's for a cent :/

No shit. Seriously, you guys that feel clever for having paid the least you could possibly pay might as well have pirated the fucking game. This should be a good incentive for a game developer to never sell their games this way again.
Luigison
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(10-13-2009, 09:07 PM)

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I was considering getting this again anyway, but the new pay-what-you-want price and the fact that it works on Linux makes it a must buy for me now. I'm even going to pay above retail because the game was that good.

What was the retail price for the PC version at launch?

Edit: I see that it was "normally 20 USD," but was that the price at launch?
Visualante
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(10-13-2009, 09:11 PM)

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLobo:
No shit. Seriously, you guys that feel clever for having paid the least you could possibly pay might as well have pirated the fucking game. This should be a good incentive for a game developer to never sell their games this way again.
Wow shut up. If they lose money it's their own fucking fault for not putting on a minimum transaction cost.
Hellraizah
(10-13-2009, 09:11 PM)

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Just donated 10$ for it. You people paying 0.01$ should feel ashamed.

The website crashed after my Paypal payment was accepted but I received a confirmation e-mail that everything went through. I'll wait for my download message.
alex1893
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(10-13-2009, 09:20 PM)

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nice offer.

Paid 20 bucks on launch for it and now spent 5 bucks to get it again because I re-installed my system in the meantime and lost the mail of the first order somehow to download it again.

And guess what I just found about 1 minute after I donated the extra money? the confirmation mail with the install link from last year. Well, no problem with it... great game, they deserve it.
nli10
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(10-13-2009, 09:21 PM)

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLobo:
No shit. Seriously, you guys that feel clever for having paid the least you could possibly pay might as well have pirated the fucking game. This should be a good incentive for a game developer to never sell their games this way again.

Either that or they just paid money to sign up on their mailing list for future announcements.
Cheez-It
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(10-13-2009, 09:21 PM)

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Originally Posted by Visualante:
Wow shut up. If they lose money it's their own fucking fault for not putting on a minimum transaction cost.

No, it is partially the jackasses who would pay a ridiculously low price for this game... Although I would imagine this idea will result in profit. The game is well worth its original cost.

BTW, better on PC than Wii. Much better control, and soundtrack is available in file form...
Alts
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(10-13-2009, 09:23 PM)

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Originally Posted by Cheez-It:
soundtrack is available in file form...

isn't the soundtrack available on their site, anyway?
Buttonbasher
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(10-13-2009, 09:25 PM)

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#113

Donated 4.39. I bought the WiiWare one already, and will get the iPhone one day one.
Weenerz
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(10-13-2009, 09:39 PM)

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Decent game, wouldn't say it was the best dollar I've ever spent, but its up there.
poppabk
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(10-13-2009, 09:40 PM)

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Originally Posted by nli10:
Either that or they just paid money to sign up on their mailing list for future announcements.
A mailing list of people who are willing to buy games priced $0.01 and below is probably worth its weight in gold.
Gagaman
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(10-13-2009, 09:47 PM)

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I still haven't got my download code yet. :(

(paid $1.23, will buy on Wiiware if I love it)
tenritsu
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#117

I don't even remember how much I bought it for (I think it was 5) (as in, a while back) but it was definitely worth it.
TitaniumGroceries
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#118

Originally Posted by Visualante:
Wow shut up. If they lose money it's their own fucking fault for not putting on a minimum transaction cost.


Hmmm........
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 10:15 PM)
#119

Originally Posted by Hellraizah:
Just donated 10$ for it. You people paying 0.01$ should feel ashamed.

The website crashed after my Paypal payment was accepted but I received a confirmation e-mail that everything went through. I'll wait for my download message.

Ashamed?

I think that's stretching it. When an iPhone game goes on special for a weekend for free, should people feel ashamed? Would the situation be different had 2DBoy put this free for the week instead? Should we feel ashamed for downloading it then?

I still think the devs of World of Goo are drumming this up as promotion - again, they're probably even willing to just give this away for free for a week, but this approach is more novel. At least it guilt-trips people into paying something.
Valru
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(10-13-2009, 10:22 PM)

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Originally Posted by mrkgoo:
Ashamed?

I think that's stretching it. When an iPhone game goes on special for a weekend for free, should people feel ashamed? Would the situation be different had 2DBoy put this free for the week instead? Should we feel ashamed for downloading it then?

I still think the devs of World of Goo are drumming this up as promotion - again, they're probably even willing to just give this away for free for a week, but this approach is more novel. At least it guilt-trips people into paying something.
paypal takes a few for every transaction meaning the devs probably paying paypal everytime someone pays 1 cent
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 10:27 PM)
#121

Originally Posted by Valru:
paypal takes a few for every transaction meaning the devs probably paying paypal everytime someone pays 1 cent

Does paypal take something when it's set up for donation, as opposed to a transaction?

Edit:
Quote:
Accept donations made with credit cards, debit cards, and PayPal right away.
No monthly, set-up, or cancellation fees. Only low transaction fees.
Donors don't need a PayPal account to make their donations.

Looks like they do. I wonder what the 'low fees' are? Still, 2DBoys must know what they are doing to go this route.
cooljeanius
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(10-13-2009, 10:31 PM)

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#122

I downloaded the demo from MacGamesArcade, but I'm going to wait until my Wii's available to me again before buying the whole thing. Playing with a trackpad doesn't feel as good as I imagine playing with a Wii Remote would feel.
ACE 1991
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(10-13-2009, 10:33 PM)

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Ugh... site isn't working. =/
Amory Blaine
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(10-13-2009, 10:35 PM)

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLobo:
No shit. Seriously, you guys that feel clever for having paid the least you could possibly pay might as well have pirated the fucking game. This should be a good incentive for a game developer to never sell their games this way again.

The way I see it, the game probably isn't selling at all anymore, they'll make some money on this promotion (because even if a whole lot of people pay a dollar, they still make more money than they would at retail these days), and consumers get to play their game and maybe buy their next game at retail price.

It's a smart advertising ploy more than them trying to push the game, IMO.
Liam92
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(10-13-2009, 10:40 PM)

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#125

I pirated this game and enjoyed it, but now they've taken on this business model I've just given them £5.

A well deserved £5.
Hellraizah
(10-13-2009, 10:48 PM)

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Originally Posted by mrkgoo:
Ashamed?

I think that's stretching it. When an iPhone game goes on special for a weekend for free, should people feel ashamed? Would the situation be different had 2DBoy put this free for the week instead? Should we feel ashamed for downloading it then?

I still think the devs of World of Goo are drumming this up as promotion - again, they're probably even willing to just give this away for free for a week, but this approach is more novel. At least it guilt-trips people into paying something.

Well, they are not offering it for free. They say you pay what you feel like it's worth. If somebody thinks that game is worth only 1 cent, they probably never worked on anything in their life. I paid 10$, I can't even get the game right now, and I am glad I did. I paid 70$ for games in the past that I probably didn't enjoy as much as I will enjoy this game. 10$ is REALLY cheap to support a small respectable company like this.
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#127

Lots of sites (like RedFlagDeals) hammering the site with 1 cent purchases. GTFO, you slime. Actually try to contribute something to a creative developer.
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 10:51 PM)
#128

Originally Posted by Hellraizah:
Well, they are not offering it for free. They say you pay what you feel like it's worth. If somebody thinks that game is worth only 1 cent, they probably never worked on anything in their life. I paid 10$, I can't even get the game right now, and I am glad I did. I paid 70$ for games in the past that I probably didn't enjoy as much as I will enjoy this game. 10$ is REALLY cheap to support a small respectable company like this.

This is true, I suppose. They are asking people to pay what it's worth, as opposed to a 'free-for-all', a minor, but perhaps significant distinction.

Still, they should be prepared for all the people paying less than what they think it's worth - it's inevitable.
Dynamic3
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(10-13-2009, 10:52 PM)

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#129

Originally Posted by Valru:
paypal takes a few for every transaction meaning the devs probably paying paypal everytime someone pays 1 cent

They don't charge a flat fee, it's a percentage of the total amount. So if someone donates $.01, the co. will only get $.0097. You honestly think a tiny dev would pay people to download their game? Use your head.
Milk Lizard
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Originally Posted by Dynamic3:
They don't charge a flat fee, it's a percentage of the total amount. So if someone donates $.01, the co. will only get $.0097. You honestly think a tiny dev would pay people to download their game? Use your head.

Are you sure about that ? I remember 4chan donating a very small amount of money to some to make them lose money.

Anyway i paid 5$ for the game, i'm cheap fucker.
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(10-13-2009, 10:55 PM)

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#131

Originally Posted by GC|Simon:
What the fuck are you doing guys? Paying 0.01$ isn't funny. This game is great, in my opinion one of the best games ever created. And you're paying such amounts for it?
Well maybe the developers shouldn't have let you buy it for so cheap? It's their fault. Don't complain when people take advantage of a great deal.
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 10:56 PM)
#132

Originally Posted by Dynamic3:
They don't charge a flat fee, it's a percentage of the total amount. So if someone donates $.01, the co. will only get $.0097. You honestly think a tiny dev would pay people to download their game? Use your head.

I was just at the paypal site - not sure exactly how it works, but it sounded like 30c plus a 1-2% transaction fee, but that was for non-profit organisations or something.

So I'm not really sure how it goes.
Dynamic3
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(10-13-2009, 11:07 PM)

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Originally Posted by mrkgoo:
I was just at the paypal site - not sure exactly how it works, but it sounded like 30c plus a 1-2% transaction fee, but that was for non-profit organisations or something.

So I'm not really sure how it goes.

Well for a standard account there is a microtransaction fee of 5c + 5%, so I could be wrong, but more often than not they would have a tailored account, especially if they have ever brought in over 200k in a month (release perhaps).
ipukespiders
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(10-13-2009, 11:11 PM)

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#134

Can't reach the site atm, so I'll ask here. Can I buy multiple copies with 1 paypal account? I want to get it for 3 users.
Firehead
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(10-13-2009, 11:12 PM)

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Originally Posted by ipukespiders:
Can't reach the site atm, so I'll ask here. Can I buy multiple copies with 1 paypal account? I want to get it for 3 users.
Yep.
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I dunno if I'd criticize people for doing minimum transactions.

Gamers are cheap people, tell them they can enjoy an incredible game for a cent and they will.

At the very least, it proves this kind of model is unfeasible for this market. While a few (awesome) people will pay what they think it's worth, the rest of the people will see "OH MY GOD DEAL WITHOUT HAVING TO FEEL BAD FOR PIRATING IT" and pay as little as possible.

Radiohead got away with it because they have hardcore fans and people see music as more of an artistic expression. To most gamers, it's a product, nothing more.

I'd be super surprised if this honor-system style sale ever happens again.
ipukespiders
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(10-13-2009, 11:17 PM)

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Good promotion for World of Goo 2 I say. Any drug dealer knows that.
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 11:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto:
I dunno if I'd criticize people for doing minimum transactions.

Gamers are cheap people, tell them they can enjoy an incredible game for a cent and they will.

At the very least, it proves this kind of model is unfeasible for this market. While a few (awesome) people will pay what they think it's worth, the rest of the people will see "OH MY GOD DEAL WITHOUT HAVING TO FEEL BAD FOR PIRATING IT" and pay as little as possible.

Radiohead got away with it because they have hardcore fans and people see music as more of an artistic expression. To most gamers, it's a product, nothing more.

I'd be super surprised if this honor-system style sale ever happens again.

It's just a promotion, because it has a time limit. DOing it this way has generated more chatter about the game than simply releasing it for free - you'd simply get a thread of people saying, "Great game, people who don't get it for free are insane! Thanks for spreading the word!".

That said, a proper honour-system style could work, if you had a minimum pay - perhaps radio buttons with $5, $10 and $20 or something.

Shareware is sort of a pay what you want, but normally gimp the free version, for example (like a boot up or ad version). I know it's not the same, but I pay money to remove ads, but given the opportunity to get something for dirt cheap (legitimately), I will take it.
Dementia
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#139

Originally Posted by Liam92:
I borrowed this game from a friend and enjoyed it, but now they've taken on this business model I've just given them £5.

A well deserved £5.
Fixed that for you. I suggest you make a similar change.

edit: too slow, you're fucked

Last edited by Dementia : 10-14-2009 at 12:32 AM.
mclem
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Does anyone know off the top of their head the difference between the profit 2dBoy get on the Wiiware version and that which they get on the (full-priced) PC version? I've already got it on Wiiware but I've half a mind to pay them the extra amount directly; it's worth it.
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(10-13-2009, 11:43 PM)

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Originally Posted by Liam92:
I pirated this game and enjoyed it, but now they've taken on this business model I've just given them £5.

A well deserved £5.

Just quoting this so he can be appropriately dealt with.

God this thread is one of the more infuriating I've ever read.

Of course, WoG is also one of my favorite games of all time, so I guess it makes sense.
mrkgoo
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(10-13-2009, 11:46 PM)
#142

Originally Posted by Nicktals:
Just quoting this so he can be appropriately dealt with.

God this thread is one of the more infuriating I've ever read.

Of course, WoG is also one of my favorite games of all time, so I guess it makes sense.

Really, you should be directing fury at the developers for even doing this then.

The developer puts the game on sale for whatever price people want to pay, and you get infuriated when people pay whatever price they want to pay?

For sure, people are paying less than what it's worth, even to them, but you can't blame them really.
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Originally Posted by XCell9200:
The way I see it, the game probably isn't selling at all anymore, they'll make some money on this promotion (because even if a whole lot of people pay a dollar, they still make more money than they would at retail these days), and consumers get to play their game and maybe buy their next game at retail price.

It's a smart advertising ploy more than them trying to push the game, IMO.

This is a post of sound reasoning.

Some of you should get off your high horses.
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Originally Posted by Liam92:
I pirated this game and enjoyed it, but now they've taken on this business model I've just given them £5.

A well deserved £5.

gotee12
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(10-14-2009, 12:21 AM)

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Originally Posted by Liam92:
I pirated this game and enjoyed it, ...

I felt kinda guilty for considering to buy it for only $5 from 2dboy.com. (having never pirated it...)

You've made me feel a lot better! Thanx!

Last edited by gotee12 : 10-14-2009 at 12:29 AM.
Grayman
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(10-14-2009, 12:31 AM)
#146

someone should pay their bandwidth bill! how long is the time frame on this?
Okin
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(10-14-2009, 12:32 AM)

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If you're paying a cent for it, you're a dick. Just because they let you doesn't mean it's okay. Don't be an idiot.

"Oh look, they left their car unlocked, I guess everything inside is mine now! They didn't lock the door so it's okay."
Dementia
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Originally Posted by Okin:
If you're paying a cent for it, you're a dick. Just because they let you doesn't mean it's okay. Don't be an idiot.

"Oh look, they left their car unlocked, I guess everything inside is mine now! They didn't lock the door so it's okay."
Don't be an idiot and make horrible, hyperbolic, unrelated analogies.

Unless the car owner gave you permission to take anything inside the car, they are not even vaguely similar situations.


Btw is anyone having any luck getting on their website? It's been down for me for the last few hours, and I still haven't received my email with instructions. :(
VGChampion
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(10-14-2009, 12:46 AM)

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Sweet. I'll be picking this up cheap once the site loads up. I sort of feel bad but on one hand, I already bought it on WiiWare so they have me purchasing it full price at one point, and this will be a little extra instead of nothing.
Tain
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I can't believe some of the fury in this thread. Go take the developers out to dinner or something.
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